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Dave Tew

I read in some biography that Franklin Roosevelt bought a knockabout somewhat like the Crowninshield you describe here. He bought it used in the Northeast and issued orders to have her slung in davits aboard a Navy ship (he was Ass't SecNav at the time) and delivered to Campobello Island for his family's use. I recall that she was named VIREO, but I could be wrong.

Leon Steyns

Very nice boat!

Should this "informal study" ever lead to a book, I'd be very interested in buying it.

Greets, Leon Steyns.

Dave Tew


If I'm not mistaken, and I may well be, Maynard Bray has a boat in his collection originally called FLICKER, a full keel version of N. G. Herreshoff's Buzzard's Bay 15 built in 1907. The Crowninshield shows similarities to that one, but I am wondering which has more sail area. Does Maynard know?

Chris Rogers

I think the article is from March, 1916 - pages 107,108. There are lines and construction plans printed there too.

Maynard Bray

Our Flicker that Dave Tew mentioned has a sail area of 330.6 square feet, 257.6 in the main and 73 in the jib. Her displacement, according to a 1907 letter from HMCo., is "about 2,100 pounds." I haven't weighed her or confirmed this number, but I'll bet it's pretty accurate as she was built to be hoisted on a steam yacht's davits. Being lighter and having more sail area, she should be faster than the Dark Harbor 15—but with me sailing, that could be questionable. Flicker is painted and ready to launch as soon as we get some good weather.

polly saltonstall

The desgin that Matt mentions is No. 444 and is dated July 1915.


I own a McVay Bluenose sloop designed in Halifax Nova Scotia in the early 1940s. It is one of the more famous Canadian designs. It also bears a remarkable resemblance to the Dark Harbour 17, both above and below the waterline. Is there any chance that one led to the other, or was it a case of convergent evolution?
I'm very curious
thank you

Bill Evans

This is a sweet design. I have become very smitten by the old knockabout designs. Have you posted any other parts of your informal study? Would love to see more.

Thanks, Bill

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